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作者owen91 (路人)
看板Audiophile
標題[問題] roon連接marantz ND8006
時間Tue Mar 16 17:20:20 2021

音響新手 本身有用foobar聽無損的習慣 被roon給燒到 開始想升級就買相關的產品

前幾天剛好有版友賣marantz ND8006 因為看到有支援roon 而且價格可以接受就買了

機器是美規水貨

另外有買naim mu-so qb 2 這產品是roon ready 用roon可以撥放到96kHz/24bit

目前住外面 所以先用nd 8006 接muso qb 做測試

但是遇到一個問題 roon可以連到 ND8006 喇叭也有音樂 但是會降檔到 44.1kHz/16bit

研究發現wifi連結方式是airplay 如圖



roon官網有寫 AirPlay only accepts CD-quality (44.1kHz/16bit) audio.

https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/airplay-setup

google發現官網2016年有人用marantz的產品也是只支援airplay 但他是用apple產品

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/airplay-vs-wired-ethernet/11448

打電話問台灣廠商的工程師他說我的連結不應該顯示airplay

因為我沒有apple的產品 手機是華碩 筆電是為微星 wifi是中華電信

感謝各位版友的回覆 整理一下回覆

問題1 roon的airplay從哪裡來的? Ans:roon內建airplay 不支援無線RAAT 就走airplay

問題2 因為nd 8006只是roon tested devices 本來就被設定不能支援更高的格式?

Ans:並不是tested 就要降 要看機器本身是否支援無線RAAT

問題3 假如nd 8006用wifi接roon真的只支援到44/16 那我接下來應該怎麼辦?

Ans:買USB線 當USB DAC用 最後成果

問題4 nd8006 可透過USB-B / USB-DAC接收高達11.2MhzDSD和384kHz/32位PCM的檔案格式

再買一台roon ready usb dac? Ans:不需要

雖然木耳分不出來 44/16 跟 96/24有什麼差

但是看到roon 的訊號路徑是綠色不是紫白色還是開心不起來 Ans:看到紫白就是爽

最後擴大機跟喇叭本來想升級

正在研究自己的預算跟需求 但是遇到這個問題 突然沒興致了

希望有人可以給我其他意見 感恩

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推 hsakuya: roon基本上丟給沒支援roon ready的裝置就會走Airplay通道 03/16 17:33
→ hsakuya: 只要裝置在音訊裝置那邊歸類在other 一般都是airplay 03/16 17:34
→ hsakuya: roon tested只是代表它的DAC經過roon的認證 03/16 17:35
→ hsakuya: 你用光纖輸出給他的時候能夠發揮應有的效果 03/16 17:35
推 hsakuya: 另外支援roon ready的設備基本上都是Streamer了 03/16 17:38
推 xoy: 這台的網路介面看起來就是沒有Roon Ready需要的RAAT 03/16 17:42
推 xoy: 另外工程師的回答很亮光，Roon Server原生支援AirPlay，不需 03/16 17:48
→ xoy: 要跑在蘋果的電腦才支援AirPlay 03/16 17:48
推 Rin1982: 關掉airplay,啟用roonready那一個選項 03/16 17:53
推 dorbeetle: 我有roon tested的設備 可以跑到96 所以應該不是這限制 03/16 17:54
→ dorbeetle: 分不出來就不要太介意 44.1或說CD音質其實已經很棒了 03/16 17:55
→ dorbeetle: kimogi問題就… XDXD 03/16 17:57
→ dorbeetle: 對了 我的是走有線 難道是這部份的問題？！ 03/16 17:59
推 xoy: 官網講的很清楚了，看最下面 03/16 18:11
→ xoy: https://bit.ly/3rU6z8W 03/16 18:11
推 annachie: core在哪，為什麼不直接到喇吧？不需要8006吧？ 03/16 18:15
推 xoy: 16/44.1是AirPlay的限制，不是Roon Test的限制，原Po最簡單 03/16 18:26
→ xoy: 的解法就是從Roon Core的電腦用USB線把ND8006當USB DAC就搞 03/16 18:26
→ xoy: 定了 03/16 18:26
推 annachie: 03/16 19:16
→ annachie: LSX只有roon test,好像也沒有支援MQA,這192khz看到有嚇 03/16 19:18
→ annachie: 到，不知道是不是真的(也是走wifi) 03/16 19:18
推 dfhrwang: 應該是看串流有沒有支援無線RAAT 沒有就只能走airplay 03/16 19:23
推 annachie: 剛試roon不管選no mqa，decorder,render,decoder and 03/16 19:47
→ annachie: render跑出來都一樣192khz的畫面，很奇怪 03/16 19:47
推 l98: 很簡單，因為除了透過APP連結外，你這兩台共通的WiFi 傳輸協 03/16 19:51
→ l98: 定就是Airplay。不算Spotify connect 的話。 03/16 19:51
→ l98: 除了廠商自己的傳輸協定外，現在機器能無線傳輸音樂的協定就A 03/16 19:53
→ l98: irplay或chromecast。走有線或usb吧！ 03/16 19:53
推 l98: 另外我覺得你現在直連naim mu-so qb 2 就好了，不要透過8006 03/16 20:03
→ l98: ，反正最後的瓶頸還是在naim mu-so qb 2 這台身上 03/16 20:03
→ l98: 上面說的無線是指WiFi 03/16 20:20
→ owen91: core 用筆電 接USB就正常了 03/16 21:24
→ owen91: 接MUSO 手邊喇叭就只是它 單純想測試功能 03/16 21:25
※ 編輯: owen91 (114.40.238.3 臺灣), 03/16/2021 21:30:44
推 dorbeetle: 題外話… Qb2如何呢 之前有想買來放飯廳 吃飯配音樂 03/16 21:29
→ owen91: 我覺得還不錯 便利 主要賣外型 https://reurl.cc/e9Vv6b 03/16 21:41
→ owen91: 這是英國的網站寫的很詳細B&W Formation Wedge也可以考慮 03/16 21:42
推 elguapo: @annachie Roon 您看到那個 192 只是 Roon 對檔案做個核 03/16 21:43
→ elguapo: 對而已（在 Roon 裡只要是 MQA 檔案都會有那一步），您 03/16 21:43
→ elguapo: 的 Roon 並未打開 MQA core decoder 所以 Roon 檢查完檔 03/16 21:43
→ elguapo: 案就原封不動的給 KEF。這種情況建議在 Roon 裡打開 MQA 03/16 21:43
→ elguapo: core decoder 讓 Roon 至少解第一層到 88.2 or 96KHz 再 03/16 21:43
→ elguapo: 把訊號送給 KEF。 03/16 21:43
→ owen91: 點音訊裝置設定 在MQA相容選解碼嗎? 03/16 21:46
推 annachie: @ela. 我懷疑也是這樣，但開render 或開core mqa顯示都 03/16 23:35
→ annachie: 相同，我以為應該path要看到core decorder轉96再到Lsx 03/16 23:35
→ annachie: 比較合理 03/16 23:35
推 annachie: 試出來了，要開no mqa或render only再重放曲子才會出來 03/16 23:46
→ annachie: 03/16 23:47






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Roon Ready. Bluetooth In. High performance ananlog-to-digital converter (ADC). High performance digital-to-analogue converter (DAC).

#54. TEST: ROON - musikafspilleren for musik-elskere?

For den højeste kvalitet og oplevelse skal man have et “Roon Ready” certificeret endpoint. Enno fortæller at firmaet selv certificerer ...

#55. 評測｜B&W Formation Duo，最滿意的書架無線主動DSP喇叭

帶寬25Hz-33kHz，採用1吋碳纖維高音單體一支，6.5吋Continuum振膜中低音單體一支，內建125瓦D類擴大機，DSP與DynamicEQ，內建RoonReady，Spotify， ...

#56. 好看好用好聽的B&W Formation系列數位串流音響 - YouTube

#57. 全方位最佳聲場！B＆W推出了一套無線音響系統全套售價7795 ...

B&W 此番推出的無線音箱系列名為B&W Formation，由條形音箱Formation Bar、 ... HD藍牙、Apple AirPlay 2和Spotify Connect兼容，並且是Roon Ready。

#58. Roon Labs on fait le point (mise à jour) - Hifi link

Roon Labs organise votre bibliothèque audio numerique et fait converger vos ... -Un streamer des marques qui adhèrent à Roon (Roon Ready), ...

#59. Roon Nucleus and Nucleus Plus music server - Brisbane HiFi

Audio Playback. Simply connect a USB DAC or stream to any of the huge family of network players supported by Roon, including Roon Ready, Sonos, Airplay, ...

#60. TEST MULTIROOM-SYSTEM - Gute-Anlage.de

B&W stellt mit der Formation-Serie ein komplettes drahtloses ... die Briten von B&W Pionierarbeit ... digitale Geräte bietet und Roon-ready ist.

#61. Formation-Duo-Info-Sheet.pdf - Bowers & Wilkins

Roon Ready. Bluetooth In. Digital Signal Processing (DSP). Digital amplifier. Dynamic EQ. Drive units. 1x ø25mm (1 in) Carbon dome high-frequency.

#62. Cheap way to enable Roon streamig to older NAIM streamers

Conservatory: RPi 3B/HiFiBerry DAC+ Pro/HiFiBerryOS → B&W MM-1. Couldn't be happier. ... You are then ready to use Roon.

#63. B&W Formation Flex Black - Wireless Speakers - ListenUp

... Apple AirPlay 2, Spotify Connect, Roon, and Bluetooth compatible; Sets up in moments; Synchronizes in perfected harmony with other Formation products.

#64. Best High-End Wireless Speakers of 2022 | The Master Switch

There's no Roon Ready functionality or MQA streaming either. ... KEF) the B&W app used to control the Formation Duo works fine.

#65. Roon Ready Endpoint /Music streamer recommendation

So far I like the Bluesound Node 2i, but I have seriously considered the Bowers and Wilkins Formation Audio unit. The B&W unit utilizes it's own ...

#66. ROON的优势是什么？- Hi-Fi音响与音乐

目前的音源是TEAC NT505（支持roon和tidal），读NAS里的音乐，经功放到音箱系统。 ... 耳机：Sony WH-1000xM3 / PHILIPS Fidelo X2HR / B&W P5 s2

#67. [問題] roon連接marantz ND8006 - 看板Audiophile - 批踢踢實業坊

推hsakuya: roon基本上丟給沒支援roon ready的裝置就會走Airplay通道 03/16 17: ... owen91: 這是英國的網站寫的很詳細B&W Formation Wedge也可以考慮 ...

#68. B&W Formation Flex 無線串流喇叭黑色 - 博客來

優惠折扣. 不參加結帳再折扣活動 ; 產品內容物與規格說明/保固資訊. 系統支援. Apple® AirPlay 2. Spotify Connect Roon Ready Bluetooth v4.1, Class 2 (aptX HD / AAC / ...

#69. Roon dsp review - Radiance Vision Group

Like the Poly, the 2go is Roon Ready which basically means it will work out of ... Here before us is the B&W Duo, a pair of wireless active speakers and a ...

#70. Roon im Test: Wie gut ist das gehypte Musikserver-System ...

Roon Ready und Roon Tested. Die vielen möglichen Endpoints oder Zonen sind mit dem Roon Core verbunden. Sie geben die Inhalte wieder, die von ...

#71. Bowers & Wilkins Formation Duo review

the B&W Duo, a pair of wireless active speakers and a highlight of the ... while also giving you access to the music on any Roon-ready ...

#72. Question - Is the Arcam SA30 Roon ready? | AVForums

As title, all I hear is that it is an endpoint. Does this mean it's Roon ready or just Roon tested?

#73. Astell&Kern A&ultima Series Players Receive Roon Ready ...

New Firmware for the A&ultima SP1000 and SP2000 adding Roon Ready ... Current: Shanling M8, EE Valkyrie custom, Audeze LCD-2C, B&W PI7 TWS, ...

#74. Roon at Five : A Comprehensive Guide & Appraisal

Also a Roon Ready endpoint is volume controllable in the Roon Software (which I'll come onto). In the sense a product is Roon Tested, it will ...

#75. A LITTLE ROON TO MANOEUVRE - PREMIUM STREAMING ...

Having used Roon on and off for a few years in the shop with various devices. Sometimes because it was necessary, as with the B&W Formation ...

#76. So you want to blow £1,000 on a serious one-box hi-fi. Good ...

It's Roon ready, so networked audio can be accessed – there's even a ... The B&W, for example, has a 24bit/96kHz DAC to deal with digital ...

#77. Introducing Roon: for the Discerning Music Enthusiast

[…] brands, and it supports Apple's AirPlay 2, aptX HD Bluetooth, and Spotify Connect. It is also Roon Ready providing an even more robust high- ...

#78. Tutto quello che dovete sapere su Roon - AF Digitale

Troverete dispositivi di rete Roon Ready nei listini di brand come Audioquest, Bluesound, B&W, Cambridge Audio, Chord, dCS, Devialet, Elac, JBL, ...

#79. Bricasti Products to be disabled in ROON - AudioAficionado.org

Woah!! I just received an email from ROON saying they are cutting off the ability for any uncertified ROON ready product to be enabled in ...

#80. What Does "Roon Ready" Actually Mean? - Gear Patrol

You'll see this labeled alongside support for Spotify Connect, AirPlay 2 and Bluetooth, and if a speaker or audio component is "Roon Ready," ...

#81. Roon: все, что вам необходимо знать - Аудиомания

Сетевые устройства Roon Ready можно встретить в каталогах таких производителей, как Audioquest, Bluesound, B&W, Cambridge Audio, Chord, dCS, Devialet, Elac, ...

#82. 五一折腾记（关于Roon及Tidal的尝试） - 台式耳机系统

但三天折腾的最终结果是，删除了Roon，留用了原本配置在解码里的Tidal。原因……还真的是要慢慢道来。 首先，列一下整个系统：. 音箱：B&W 805D3.

#83. Gold Note IS-1000 nun Roon ready | sempre-audio.at

Mit dem Gold Note IS-1000 erhält eine hervorragende All-in-One Lösung der High-end Klasse die Zertifizierung als Roon ready ...

#84. Roon | The Emotiva Lounge

It must be "Roon ready" or be a Squeezebox (or able to run software like Squeezelite) or be an iOS device. If you have an Apple TV or a Roku ...

#85. Rel vs kef subwoofer If you want an amplifier, speakers or ...

Quick Comparison: KEF and B&W both produce excellent speakers. ... two more speakers for a quad setup—and I've got the quad open-reel deck at the ready.

#86. Pecanpi dac de/radio. just add raspberry pi and case for a ...

Apr 16, 2021 · FOR SALE: Orchard Audio PecanPi Streamer/DAC with Roon End Point ... Mar 22, 2018 · The PecanPi Streamer is a ready to go plug and play ...

#87. Kef ls50 competitors Jan 27, 2022 · KEF LS50 Wireless ...

May be only competition is B&W owns 705S S2. Curved for performance LS50 ... These speakers are ROON ready, UPnP compatible and connect via Bluetooth 4.

#88. Tidal on raspberry pi 37). We get a look at the CarPlay ...

RoPieee provides a ready-to-go image that runs Roon Bridge and enables your USB port for playing audio over an USB DAC. Raspberry Pi Case.

#89. Bowers and Wilkins Formation Audio Music Steamer - Sydney ...

Technical features = Apple® AirPlay 2® technology, Spotify® Connect, Roon Ready, Bluetooth In, High-performance analogue-to-digital converter (ADC), ...

#90. We are Roon Ready - Devialet

DEVIALET | ROON READY ... Roon和Devialet聯手重新思索如何在您的Devialet環境中播放和享受音樂。在Phantom或Expert Pro上，準備好發現並享受高解析度樂曲的全新可能。滿足 ...

#91. Nad M33 Forum - DRG Expert

I have had my NAD M33 for 6 weeks now and it sounds fantastic with my B&W ... or other The NAD HTRM 2 is ready to operate the M33 right out of the box, ...

#92. Roon raat. The CTO himself mentions this in a thr

Roon Ready devices are network audio players which support Roon's RAAT protocol ... The three new tonearms will be available from April/May onwards, the B&W ...

#93. The Best Stereo Speakers of 2022 | Popular Science

Speaker connections can range from the ultra-minimalist (the B&W ... setup with compatible speakers; KEF says that Roon support is coming.

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... Guitar provides a voice that is classic eminently recordable and gig ready. 0. ... Hana Sonos Bluesound Roon Innuos Kaleidescape Clic Naim Ex Demo Sale.

#95. Roon apple watch. Across iCloud, music, and Apple TV+ ...

P. Roon streams formats up to 384kHz/24-bit PCM and DSD256 to Roon Ready devices, ... 2) on the B&W Formation Duo and other compatible AirPlay 2 Rent $4.

#96. Roon dsp bass. Roon Labs. Using your files and s

Roon Ready Bluetooth In Digital Signal Processing (DSP) Digital amplifier ... The Wedge is the spiritual successor to the super-successful B&W Zeppelin but ...

#97. ハイエンドオーディオ - Stereo Sound ONLINE (4ページ目)

Bowers& Wilkins（B&W）から、ブックシェルフ型スピーカー「705 Signature」とフロアー型スピーカー「702 ... 一番のトピックとして、Roon Readyに対応を果たした。

#98. `Nightmare Alley,' `Yellowstone' Top JustWatch Streaming ...

... Axiim2 (2); B&W2 (2); Bang & Olufsen3 (3); baseball1 (1) ... Roku TV Ready1 (1); Rollable OLED5 (5); Roon Tested Accreditation1 (1) ...

#99. ROON READY - MY-HiEND

自Weiss DAC501/DAC502在2016年發表以來已經有六年的時間，這六年並未停止Weiss不斷求好的研發，不僅用家已經享有多次免費的韌體升級享受到Weiss最新的技術，在硬體 ...