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標題[麥書] Macbook M1程式開發環境
時間Wed Nov 25 09:00:51 2020


剛看到日本那邊有人發表測試文章了,
貼給對程式開發仍有疑慮的板友們參考一下

https://qiita.com/shibukawa/items/797b7cbb7e530842e6f7

重點應該是表格部分，所以就不特別翻譯了
有日文關鍵字看不懂的可以推文問，如果我知道那是啥玩意再回你
(如果不知道的話... 請熱心的板友回一下吧，感謝)

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雖然我是很想買 M1, 不過再等一陣子好了...
光 big sur 跑 eclipse 跑起來都還有些問題沒解決哩

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推 furuuchitw: MacBook的更新週期有到一年一換嗎？我是在觀望Mac min 11/25 09:11
→ furuuchitw: i 11/25 09:11
看口袋深度吧, 我平均一台大概是用六年左右啦...

還是你說的是產品更新週期？XD 剛好像誤會意思了。
舊款的印象中是沒有，但 M 晶片版本就不知道了，如果像 iphone 那樣好像也不錯

推 helba: 期望和哀鳳一樣一台可用好幾年 11/25 09:21
推 NoneWolf: 我是用了七年今年剛換MBP 但還是想在家裡把台mini 反正 11/25 09:23
→ NoneWolf: 先不管當前兼容性 這性能和價格買來試試水溫也不虧 如果 11/25 09:23
→ NoneWolf: 真不行 二手價應該也比筆電好吧 11/25 09:23
→ Killercat: eclipse這史前魔物說真的放下吧.... XD 11/25 09:55
推 danadanad: vim無敵 11/25 10:34
推 benedict76: eclipse明明還蠻多人用的叫人家放下幹嘛… 11/25 10:42
主要是同 team 的人都在用史前魔物啊...

換了之後會遇到很多麻煩，不管是物理上或是非物理上（意味不明）

推 kyleJ: 好奇eclipse目前在intel版的big sur有什麼bug嗎？ 11/25 10:56
目前遇到的大部分是 ui 顯示上的問題, 其他運作上是還好.

像是 working set 新增之後不會顯示新增的那個 set, 要關掉重開
或者是 market search 那個欄位顯示比例錯誤。

雖然都是小問題啦，但仍然是想等穩定一點再觀望 M1
(我是認為這種類型的小問題會更多)

→ amazingreg: 感覺這種集成式無法自行更換零件的3C壽命都不會太長 11/25 11:50
→ eyecolor: 說得好像現在macbook就可以隨便換零件一樣 11/25 11:52
※ 編輯: swallowcc (111.242.93.118 臺灣), 11/25/2020 11:58:00
→ eyecolor: 超薄筆電連wintel也是一堆都是用焊死的 11/25 11:52
推 benedict76: 壽命其實還好，應該撐個三到五年沒問題，只是那時候壞 11/25 11:53
→ benedict76: 了不像其他電腦可以換ssd或是ram讓電腦重生。 11/25 11:53
推 benedict76: windows nb通常是ram焊死，ssd是裝在m.2插槽，而且比a 11/25 11:56
→ benedict76: ir輕，跟air差不多重量的可以加ram跟ssd。 11/25 11:56
推 eyecolor: 以前用富士跟VAIO筆電時，零件也都特規，要換什麼都要回 11/25 11:57
→ eyecolor: 原廠，自己買零件換都要看有沒有殺肉的 11/25 11:57
→ eyecolor: 說得好像超薄筆電就很好換一樣 XD 11/25 11:58
推 benedict76: 零件有什麼特規？ 11/25 11:58
推 eyecolor: 你是真的不知道還是？ 這些日系筆電最愛走特規，都要跟 11/25 12:13
→ eyecolor: 原廠天價買 11/25 12:13
→ eyecolor: 11/25 12:14
→ eyecolor: 因為壞什麼都是特規，最後乾脆不買日系改用雙A了 11/25 12:14
推 eyecolor: 以前做超輕薄筆電都是日系的～ 11/25 12:16
推 benedict76: 你這也太久了，三五年前早就走m.2接口了。 11/25 12:20
→ eyecolor: 我玩筆電很久了，謝謝 11/25 12:22
推 helba: 不是呀日系大家都知道是盤... 11/25 12:22
→ eyecolor: 現在VAIO也不是索尼的，索尼一定弄特規 11/25 12:22
→ eyecolor: 以前也只有日系做得出塞入包包的筆電 11/25 12:23
→ eyecolor: 螢幕一捏可能就有問題的那種薄度 11/25 12:23
→ eyecolor: 況且說真的啦，如果很在乎自組自換的乾脆一點買雙A或直 11/25 12:25
→ eyecolor: 接買ROG 11/25 12:25
推 helba: 如果說要輕薄、解熱能力、擴充又好可以看看清華同方的模具 11/25 12:25
→ eyecolor: G14不是擺在那邊好好的一台強悍的光追筆電嗎，何苦來看A 11/25 12:25
→ eyecolor: RM 11/25 12:25
→ eyecolor: 筆電走到輕薄一定都特規啦，原本零件根本很難塞入 11/25 12:26
推 benedict76: lg gram，acer swift 5不到一公斤也沒用特規啊！ 11/25 12:27
→ eyecolor: 這麼神奇，我的S13記憶體都是悍死的 11/25 12:30
推 eyecolor: 那你買acer swift 5剪輯影片吧，符合您 11/25 12:32
→ eyecolor: 不對耶，acer swift 5記憶體也是悍死的 11/25 12:33
→ helba: 機械革命s2air code01 都可以裝兩條32 11/25 12:34
推 sweety655633: 以前vaio出過最輕的11.6吋才800g的樣子 11/25 12:35
→ sweety655633: 但是螢幕薄到連風吹按鍵盤都會抖 11/25 12:35
推 eyecolor: 那你去買機械革命～（不送） 11/25 12:36
推 benedict76: gram都沒焊死，swift ssd可替換 11/25 12:37
→ eyecolor: 你都知道M1如何不適合你，也都說出你想要的品牌，那就去 11/25 12:38
→ eyecolor: 買你的需求就好了，筆電本來就是隨個人喜好買的，就跟我 11/25 12:38
→ eyecolor: 以前一樣專買日系輕薄機種，每一台都貴到爆 11/25 12:38
推 nike00000000: 哈 我最原先就是從win輕薄筆電挑起 考量 品牌 螢 11/25 12:40
→ nike00000000: 幕 輕薄 續航 效能 散熱 外觀 最後就決定選m1了 11/25 12:40
→ nike00000000: 整體算下來還省了不少 ... 11/25 12:40
推 helba: 你真的看超級久的 還會提供便宜價格 11/25 12:41
→ eyecolor: 以前日系一台都六萬那邊 11/25 12:41
→ eyecolor: sweety655633大指的是2013年發表的VAIO pro 11，red edi 11/25 12:53
→ eyecolor: tion版本售價是64800 11/25 12:53
→ eyecolor: 11/25 12:55
→ sweety655633: 我記得有跳水到五萬左右 11/25 13:01
→ sweety655633: 但是摸過實機覺得手感不佳所以就跳macbook了 11/25 13:01
推 nokia6310: 索尼時代的VAIO真的是潮物～～ 11/25 13:06
→ nokia6310: 現在還有日系筆電的榮景嗎？ 11/25 13:06
推 Killercat: VAIO P我家裡還有一台珍藏到現在 真的神 11/25 13:19
推 furuuchitw: 嗯啊，我記得電腦的產品更新週期都超過1年...不知道 11/25 15:27
→ furuuchitw: 換了ARM之後會不會跟行動裝置一樣年年更新 11/25 15:27
推 benedict76: 電腦cpu也是一年一更新，現在主要看製程技術，架構能 11/25 15:29
→ benedict76: 突破的有限。 11/25 15:29
→ eyecolor: 以往會換筆電主要是因為真的跑不順windows了，如果M1可 11/25 15:48
→ eyecolor: 以每年更新OS都順跑，相信週期也會很長 11/25 15:48
→ azuel: 沒有測pycharm QQ 11/25 17:11
推 pensees: Surface也是完全無法更換 11/25 19:33
推 a58524andy: 新的surface laptop可以換ssd 11/25 20:14
推 wellzx: VS code跟node.js能跑我就會買了~讚 11/25 22:21
推 HMKRL: 有點慘 但這種開發環境更新不會太慢應該還好啦 11/25 22:47
推 Stat14: 不是啊。就算沒換成ARM，MB也是一年更新一次啊…… 11/26 00:50
推 GR3eeeN: 這個表格也太有幫助了 推 11/26 04:06
→ maplefff: 現在都用VScode了, eclipse慢到哭 11/26 09:57
→ eyecolor: surface pro我倒是有買3代，親兒子更新到現在還是頗不錯 11/26 10:56
→ eyecolor: ，但是也是啥都不能換 11/26 10:56
推 vericool: 推分享 11/26 19:22






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