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Marc Marquez cho biết điều đáng ngưỡng mộ là Valentino Rossi vẫn muốn thi đấu ở MotoGP nhưng nói thêm, “Khi tôi không còn có thể chiến đấu để giành chiến thắng, tôi sẽ dừng lại. Tôi không đua cho vị trí thứ 15 ".


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標題[討論] 今年 Marquez VS. Rossi 對戰分析
時間Fri Aug 26 21:39:09 2016

賽季目前完成11戰，直接將Marquez和Rossi的對戰結果抽出來研究

積分狀況
MM 16 25 25 16 3 20 20 20 25 11 16
Rossi 13 20 - 25 20 - 25 - 8 13 20


對戰勝負：
93比46快→6場
46比93快→5場

然而Rossi有一場非戰之罪(車壞)，且是神猴主場義大利
不只竿位、場上Pace也最強，若車不壞的話那場93不太有機會贏過Rossi


勝負時間差：
(黃色Rossi贏，紅色MM贏)

卡 +0.1
阿 +7.7 (有換胎)
美 ? (猴轉倒) (離合器有故障，轉倒前46遙遙落後)
西 -7.1
法 ? (馬轉倒) (轉倒前46遙遙領先)
義 ? (猴車壞) (車壞前46領先一段距離)
加 -2.7
荷 ? (猴轉倒) (轉倒前46遙遙領先)
德 +22.4 (有換胎)
奧 -8.0
捷 -2.3

93贏比較多的德國站和阿根廷站，賽事都有因故換胎
還沒換胎前德國站46也是遙遙領先，阿根廷站則緊咬在93車後
(雨天換胎還可以說是策略輸人，阿根廷站換胎真的是倒楣到家)

若沒有異常事態，今年Rossi在速度上其實略優於93一些
積分嘛....只能說流年不利神仙也難救
2006的厄運加強版 (攤手~)

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※ 編輯: greenpeace21 (123.193.14.93), 08/26/2016 21:39:49
推 sleep123: 積分沒優勢，小馬現在也很聰明，積分慢慢賺，猴王只能 08/26 22:00
→ sleep123: 借住東方神秘力量了。 08/26 22:00
推 LuckSK: 今年小馬是比較沉穩，明顯感受的到差異 XD 08/26 22:25
推 www1025: 93基本上是碰到冠軍了，但猴王還是有機會，只是真的不大 08/26 22:48
→ www1025: ，還需要運氣 08/26 22:48
推 waynemolly: 那個誰...上次幫AI安太歲的也幫老猴安一下吧 08/26 22:53
推 befly10015: 如果是過去的93 46還有機會追 但今年的93成熟了 不再 08/26 22:56
→ iuchun1010: MM93:給你快 冠軍我拿 08/26 22:56
推 Neuschwan: 93:一場讓你追8分...門都沒有XD 08/26 22:56
→ befly10015: 強要第一 積分都穩穩進 不再用全梭哈的方式跑 大有可 08/26 22:57
→ befly10015: 為 08/26 22:57
→ KV: 賽車不是光算算術 08/26 22:58
推 p87813159: 93一個穩紮穩打，46跟99感覺很難追回這些積分 08/26 22:58
推 XDBoyLCDP: 不是93穩紮穩打，是今年山葉各種出包和腦衝XDD 08/26 23:06
→ greenpeace21: 縮肛那場真是致命傷...不然現在還有得拚 08/26 23:15
推 for007your: 若46/93之後皆不出現機件故障 那只要最後46追進24分內 08/26 23:26
→ for007your: 則46還是People's Champ (爆引擎-20)-(不爆+4)=(-24) 08/26 23:26
→ for007your: 93目前"純"贏46達29分 冠軍純度?鹿死誰手? 最後才知啦 08/26 23:26
→ for007your: race by race一場一場看下去就對了 天有不測風雲 人有 08/26 23:27
推 aggressorX: 今年93穩 46明顯比去年強很多 只可惜運氣不太好 08/26 23:45
→ aggressorX: 主場強暴了結果縮肛 那場目前今年最傷心QQ 08/26 23:46
→ itsforte: 縮缸那場真的QQ 08/27 01:15
推 allenng: 看情形46今年絕對不可能拿冠軍了~~有本事就來打我臉~~ 08/27 01:21
推 william147: 樓上有誠意的話就請個雞排啦 08/27 01:27
推 stevendk: 馬狀態抓的很好啊，看上一場都還能上頒獎台，以積分差猴 08/27 02:44
→ stevendk: 是有機會，但需要些運氣 08/27 02:44
→ stevendk: 而且目前來看齁嘿跟猴的積分是接近的，二三會不會再吹 08/27 02:48
→ stevendk: 風不一定，加上齁嘿最近常當機 08/27 02:48
推 humaisme: 今年46 93性格好像對調了 反而46常常腦充血 08/27 08:24
推 am32jiwu06: 樓上舉例一下46今年哪一場腦充血～ 08/27 08:27
推 wander23: 是說今年yamaha不知道比honda強多少.. 08/27 08:28
→ am32jiwu06: 印象中46都跑的蠻平順的不是嗎～ 08/27 08:29
→ am32jiwu06: MM93今年真的是強翻了～ 08/27 08:30
推 Twrossi: 93今年很不一樣啊～ 08/27 08:53
推 humaisme: 前幾場雨戰最後摔車不就腦充血 猴子以前很少這樣的 08/27 08:54
推 supreme11: 今天46真的蠻快的 排位賽就可以看出來 比去年成績好很 08/27 10:18
→ supreme11: 多 運氣不好 哈哈 93今年更強了 本田車問題那麼大 成績 08/27 10:18
→ supreme11: 卻很穩定 每場穩穩完賽 08/27 10:18
噓 fayever: 46跑不贏就跑不贏還在雖洨策略...笑死人。 08/27 11:55
推 aggressorX: 樓上46粉崩潰XDDD 08/27 12:22
推 milanbaros: 其實現在真的越來越難看出是黑還是粉了，有些實在很 08/27 12:31
→ milanbaros: 像反串XD 08/27 12:32
→ YamagiN: 老猴跟Dovi都犯太歲阿 08/27 13:12
推 no1rossi: 2006哈哈哈哈！ 08/27 14:03
推 capirex: 好啦 46最快啦 XDDDDD 08/27 17:32
→ c39801113: 山葉車真的滿常縮的 比例上來說 08/27 18:21
推 pp4646: 只能說93今年老二哲學做的不錯，維持積分而不是追求分站冠 08/27 19:36
→ pp4646: 軍！ 08/27 19:36
推 Neuschwan: 我覺得今年不是Y車強 是H沒有比以前好 光L99在雨天一定 08/27 19:47
→ Neuschwan: 烙賽跟兩場縮缸 就不見得Y家比較好 頂多說比較快一點 08/27 19:48
→ Neuschwan: Yamaha廠車就是沒有絕對的優勢 才跟99戰得這麼辛苦 08/27 19:49
推 gilingking: 本田的車還是不太行阿~ 只能說93猛 08/27 22:51
推 poohgogo: 46今年 義大利 跟有一戰下雨遙遙領先那兩場沒拿到太可惜 08/28 00:01
→ poohgogo: 機分我覺得很難追回來了 08/28 00:01
→ poohgogo: 積 08/28 00:01
→ vivileaf: 在mugello 現場看到猴王車縮缸差點淚崩 08/28 03:08
推 tonybin: Jerez那場R46能贏就代表今年競爭力夠強 摔車縮缸DNF就把 08/28 10:08
→ tonybin: 優勢吃光還倒貼 orz 08/28 10:09
→ ImpactBlue: 其實不必算術啊 確保跑完比賽 93成績不會差到哪去 08/28 12:31
→ ImpactBlue: 沒能完賽絕對會是爭冠路上的致命傷 08/28 12:31
→ ImpactBlue: 車手任務就是要保護車子和輪胎 沒有前兩項保證沒速度 08/28 12:38
→ ImpactBlue: 基本條件上YAMAHA的車是今年最不會出包的 08/28 12:40
→ ImpactBlue: 但它就是縮缸給你看了 99雨天跑得掙扎 08/28 12:41
→ ImpactBlue: 今年93做得很好，再差勁也該有前五 08/28 12:42
→ ImpactBlue: 相較之下，46遇到幾站下雨，換胎時機本來就是賭 08/28 12:43
→ ImpactBlue: 結果沒有跑得很好，一來一往積分差就擴大了 08/28 12:44
→ ImpactBlue: 相信沒車手敢說比Dovi慘吧，應該要覺得自己夠幸運了 08/28 12:47
→ ImpactBlue: 至少資深的猴王，看起來競爭力還是不錯 08/28 12:48
→ ImpactBlue: 做好未來的工作吧，積分榜聽天由命 08/28 12:48
推 devilmaycry: 93提早封王的話 我去澳洲就有機會買冠軍t了 08/28 14:03
推 adj3926: 只要不下雨99應該有機會…吧？ 08/28 14:41
→ ImpactBlue: Brno是滿可惜的，它是一條L99最擅長的賽道 08/28 16:48
→ ImpactBlue: 賽後隔天的公開測試是乾地，再次證明這一點 08/28 16:49
→ ImpactBlue: 同樣是M1，99硬是比46快了一些 08/28 16:49
→ ImpactBlue: 但是身為一位冠軍車手，雨天跑不快是不允許滴 08/28 16:50
→ ImpactBlue: 今年好幾場雨戰，算是精采，讓大家看了也不無聊 08/28 16:52
→ ImpactBlue: 看到35拿分站冠軍，真替他感到開心 08/28 16:54
推 XDBoyLCDP: 抖V真的衰到有剩.... 08/28 23:35
推 Neuschwan: 事實上只看FP跟QP 46真的還比較慢 但正賽就不同了 08/29 17:42
推 Neuschwan: 不過不排除Y車雨站烙賽的可能 搞不好99去D家就不會了XD 08/29 17:48
→ Neuschwan: 不過還是希望最後一場決定冠軍 這樣還是比較有可看性 08/29 17:48
推 pttyzf: 93比46快 今年又多了穩 08/29 19:20
推 elve7878: Y車今年最猛 93會領先真的是穩定度進化 08/29 19:55
推 puccino: 要不是縮缸後又自爆 現在局面肯定精彩到翻 08/30 14:32
→ Neuschwan: 今年93哪來比較快阿 綠和平都比較出來了 Ducati才叫快 08/30 14:49
推 p5319: 今年93真的是沉穩很多，反而克服車的問題拿到積分第一 08/30 15:12
推 for007your: 我只好奇: 若93的隊友是46 同騎RCV 倆人表現會差多少? 08/30 19:41
推 LonelyLove: 我也好奇: 若93的隊友是46 同騎M1 倆人表現會差多少? 08/30 20:09
→ Inar: 那是不可能發生的事情了~ XDD 08/30 21:07
→ Inar: 明年D牌要拔小翅膀，會有什麼影響還不知道....(茶) 08/30 21:08
→ Inar: 93自從某次下雨不換胎轉倒後，接下來有換胎幾乎都賺很大~ 08/30 21:09
推 Boryue: 這還要先解決依誰的偏好開發吧？Pedrosa表示QQ 08/30 21:09
推 LonelyLove: Pedrosa現狀這麼慘跟開發沒什麼問題，就是被輪胎婊。 08/30 23:06
→ LonelyLove: RCV很明顯就是一台不是很適合他的車，這樣磕磕碰碰的 08/30 23:07
→ LonelyLove: 也給他騎了11年...(and go on... 08/30 23:07
推 TonyAsa: 我也好奇: 若93的年齡同46 同騎一台車 倆人表現會差多少? 08/31 01:13
→ blurman: 我也很好奇93不要去搞46, 代言/相關商品可以多賺多少錢? 08/31 11:12
推 for007your: 46&99同隊的08/09/10/13/14/15這6季 46贏99共達12積分 08/31 12:16
→ for007your: 而'16季至今 46贏99達6積分 季末時99能追越這18積分嗎 08/31 12:16
→ for007your: 錦標賽比的就是積分 以46&99同隊的6季半來說 46小贏99 08/31 12:17
→ for007your: 以騎M1來看 能說46vs99伯仲之間 但考量年紀 46大贏99 08/31 12:18
→ for007your: 26&93同隊 前3季26輸186分 而此季11站26已輸92分 幫QQ 08/31 12:19
→ for007your: 26&27同隊 '11季26輸131分 '12季26贏78分 26共輸53分 08/31 12:19
→ for007your: 結論: 26常遇人不淑 幫QQ / 99跑輸老8歲多的大叔 幫QQ 08/31 12:20
→ for007your: 我竟被搞得很好奇: 若46 27 93當隊友 3人表現會差多少 08/31 12:20
推 www1025: 樓上這個問題讓我想了10分鐘，真的很難回答 08/31 13:45
推 for007your: 27第1圈就嗨賽了因車沒電控 93第2圈就被46踢出去了 XD 08/31 14:08
→ PurPkNighT: 為什麼輸隊友叫做遇人不淑啊... 08/31 15:45
→ sonofgod: 因為有一年他是被93 A到排氣管出去的 08/31 17:42
→ sonofgod: 積分本來領先的 08/31 17:43
→ Buu: 跑比較快確噴出去 這怎解釋 09/01 01:18
推 humaisme: 那不是A到排氣管吧 是離合器保護桿去切斷後輪的電控線 09/01 19:13
→ humaisme: 93還被調查是不是故意的 09/01 19:13
推 milanbaros: 我以為只有傑森史坦森可以飛車拆炸彈，沒想到現實中 09/01 20:13
→ milanbaros: 還可以精準到用車去切隊友的線XDD 09/01 20:13
推 for007your: 外科(手術)醫生? XD 09/01 20:31
→ chagy: 扣掉99 08年菜鳥年大輸46共183分，其實99後面贏蠻多的，光 09/01 22:12
→ chagy: 算總積分不是很客觀 09/01 22:12
推 for007your: 錦標賽比的就是積分 贏0.001s也贏 總合6.5季還不客觀? 09/01 23:29
→ for007your: 還"菜鳥年"勒 那93菜鳥年怎說 99菜鳥年是他自個摔掉的 09/01 23:29
→ for007your: 46在99菜鳥年時都已29歲了耶 是早該退役2年了的歲數耶 09/01 23:29
→ for007your: 滿27歲就該退役釣魚去了 結果46仍跑了10年多還在跑耶! 09/01 23:30
→ for007your: 若計較菜鳥年 那敬老尊猴該計較幾年? 要怎算才更客觀? 09/01 23:30
→ for007your: 不考慮年紀體能 都騎M1 說46vs99半斤八兩已很客觀了XD 09/01 23:31
推 TonyAsa: 某c蠻好笑的..XDDD 09/01 23:33
推 LonelyLove: 數據這種東西最厲害的就是可以隨人解讀XDD 09/02 00:58
推 FantasyNova: 跟一個中國很像 09/02 01:08
→ emj7077: 比來比去，其實都是車迷在爽居多，但也不是數字無用論 09/02 01:19
推 for007your: 93:自己2冠時RCV很強 09/02 07:45
→ for007your: 據93上述自白 93不神啦 贏2冠是靠車強 而去年輸是93弱 09/02 07:46
→ chagy: 各人解讀你也可以笑成這樣，頗呵~ 09/02 18:17
推 Dovizioso: 摔 都摔 09/07 00:40






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