關於 shaq vs kobe 2004 ，我們在網路上蒐集到這些相關的討論、資訊與評價

沒有Kobe Bryant的聖誕節大戰，我們得習慣......

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生涯20年，Kobe總計陪著洛杉磯湖人度過18次的聖誕節賽事，這是聯盟歷史之最，無人能夠匹敵，這意謂著當年歐布連線的魅力，以及他之後黑曼巴的狂人時代，讓Kobe一直是聯盟指標性與最具人氣的超級巨星之一，一個時代的看板話題人物。

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2014與15年因為受傷，生涯開始跌落谷底，但Kobe Bryant的16次聖誕節參賽還是歷史第一，這已經讓人習慣聖誕節勢必要有湖人的比賽。

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而他聖誕節大賽總得分395分也是歷史第一的成績，目前領先歷史第二名的Dwyane Wade的277分還有不小的差距，就現役球員來講最有機會破Kobe明星賽總得分的人就是LeBron James，他已經也來到270分。

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以LBJ的生涯狀態，未來持續入選明星賽到36歲都不是問題，即使Kobe已經退役，當年23 Vs 24的競爭都還是持續在抗爭，兩人就是後Michael Jordan時代後，兩個前後任的聯盟招牌巨星。

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而回顧Kobe與湖人的聖誕節大戰，從千禧年後都相當具有意義，分別為：

2001年 Vs Allen Iverson -> 同梯的雙雄對決
2002年 Vs Chris Webber -> 湖人與國王的恩怨
2003年 Vs 姚明 -> 中國長城的話題性
2004年 Vs Shaq O'Neal -> 與俠客的恩怨情仇
2005年 Vs Shaq O'Neal -> 與俠客的恩怨情仇(第二集)
2006年 Vs Wade -> 迎接新世代SG的挑戰
2007年 Vs Steve Nash -> 延續季後賽的經典死鬥
2008年 Vs GAP三巨頭 -> 湖人與塞爾提克經典再現
2009年 Vs LeBron James -> 東區小皇帝的對決
2010年 Vs 熱火之焱 -> 熱火三巨頭的高話題
2011年 Vs 玫瑰Rose -> 史上最年輕的MVP
2012年 Vs Carmelo Anthony -> 東區復興強權

#2008年Kobe稱這是最愛的聖誕節大戰
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我想光是只講這連續12年，就不知帶給球迷多少難忘的回憶，讓你不管是喜不喜歡Kobe Bryant，都會懷念這些充滿話題的大戰，想著希望Kobe贏球(贏不多)或者是想著自己支持的球隊擊倒這一個惡棍，享受那種球星對抗的話題性。

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而從今年開始，以後每個聖誕節的賽事，我們再也看不到他站在球場上了，或許對於新球迷來講沒什麼，但對於看球球齡有十年以上的人來講，真的很難適應，覺得好像少了什麼......

聖誕節大戰 = Kobe Bryant

正式下台一鞠躬了！

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不過也很替Kobe開心，他終於能陪家人好好過聖誕佳節，並且和剛出生的三女朝夕相處，這18年的聖誕節陪伴球迷真的是夠長了。

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"只要防擋拆遇到Wade"
"他是我見過最難防的後衛"
"一瞬間他就消失給你看"

- Kobe Bryant -
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結束了，時代偉大得分後衛的對決，雖然今晚Kobe因身體不適僅上場一節，但回想起與Wade的對決，他給予這晚輩兼任好友如此高的評語，宛如閃電俠一樣。
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90年代時期，當Michael Jordan快準備退役時，或許也會有些球迷像我很珍惜他與Clyde Drexler的對決，雖然兩人生涯對決上滑翔翼遠不及這個非人類的傢伙，但Drexler除了進攻慾望沒那麼強外，他的球技是最接近MJ的傢伙。
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再來偉大的得分後衛戰役轉化成Allen Iverson Vs Kobe Bryant ; 這是我過去絕對非看不可的大戲，說有多瘋狂就是有多瘋狂，即便是例行賽，我都可以翹課只為了看他們兩人較勁。
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當然還有T-Mac和VC這兩個超級搖擺人加入其中，在那個年代，真的是許多英雄與英雄對決的戰國時代，而直到T-Mac因傷折翼、VC漸漸失去球隊領袖位置，到AI去活塞隊陷入泥沼失去光輝，以及「黃曼巴」Brandon Roy如流星般墜落.....
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能夠與Kobe爭鋒相對的人物，就剩下中生代，有著「閃電俠」之名的Dwyane Wade，且他還有著與Shaq O'Neal合作的比對關係。
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當初Kobe只要遇到小老弟Wade，好勝心都非常強烈，因為他可不想被一個新的Shaq搭擋給比下，前期Wade遇到Kobe幾乎都被壓制居多，但到中後期，Wade絕不讓Kobe專美於前，兩人可說旗鼓相當。
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而在2008年的北京奧運，原本因傷沉寂而熱火帝國一夕崩盤，許多人都不看好Wade能重返顛峰的情況下，閃電俠就在國際舞台先聲奪人，告訴那些質疑者，他這樣逆境的態度也就此令Kobe非常欣賞，曾這麼說過:

"Wade跟我一樣歷經過挫敗"
"但我一看他那飢渴自信的眼神"
"我就知道他會浴火重生"

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擁有著相同的鬥性，兩人也就此總是英雄惜英雄，即使在2012年Kobe在明星賽被Wade打斷鼻梁，但他也一句責備的話都沒有，反而開玩笑的跟他說將會討回去，這也讓Wade更尊敬Kobe這位前輩，回想起當時他說:

"Kobe一直享受的競技"
"他知道我不是故意的"
"他是個偉大的競爭者"
"而我也與他一樣"

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賽後Wade也提及一些往事，那就是在他進入聯盟後第一次面對Kobe時，他已經是個締造三連霸的超級巨星，甚至在與Shaq這種怪物一隊下，他還可以連續九場40分+，所以第一次與Kobe對決時他承認自己心裡非常緊張，他說:

"這段回憶我在今年明星賽跟Kobe說過"
"這對於他可能不是什麼有印象的是情"
"但對於我可是很有意義的事"

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Wade想起2004年球季，當他對上有F4的湖人時:

"那時湖人有Gary、Karl、Shaq與Kobe"
"我們被他們痛宰了一頓"
"但在下半場快結束時"
"一個攻守轉換快攻讓我對上Kobe"
"得到與他對決的機會讓我超緊張"
"而最後我賞了一個火鍋送給他"
"並且之後在他身上拿下分數"
"這種感覺實在太棒了"
"對他而言這沒有任何意義"
"可是對我就不一樣"
"那意味著整個世界"
"他是Kobe耶"

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幾年後，當Wade也要準備退役時，我希望那時也有一名得分後衛能撐起這個世代，這人選我始終認為是James Harden，因為他真的有這個能力，他欠缺的就是如何成為攻防兩端的精英，在進攻上已經無話可說，但在防守上，他得更用心。
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過去將近30幾年，第一得分後衛都是攻防兩端能主宰比賽的人，MJ與Kobe的防守第一隊入圍次數，還有Wade恐怖的火鍋拼勁，希望未來能有人可在SG這塊上扛起這大旗。
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最後.....

Kobe Bryant下台一鞠躬 ; Dwyane Wade則要再次挑戰逆境。

接棒那種逆襲的意志吧 ; 我心中兩大傳奇的SG。

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After ripping his team for having no heart,
Allen Iverson showed they still have a pulse.

Iverson played one of his better offensive games of the season
Thursday night, scoring 39 points to lead the struggling
Philadelphia 76ers past the weary and depleted Los Angeles Lakers
96-73.

In a game that stayed competitive for only a few minutes,
Iverson had his way against defender Derek Fisher and repeatedly
freed himself for mid-range jumpers and drives.

Iverson shot 15-for-29 from the field -- missing his final four
shots -- and added six assists in one of the 76ers' most lopsided
victories of the season and the Lakers' largest margin of defeat.

"I tried to make sure I led by example," Iverson said. "I saw
guys were trying to get things done the right way."

The Lakers, playing their fourth road game in five nights and
extra tired after arriving in Philadelphia around 4 a.m., lost Gary
Payton to an ejection in a first quarter in which they scored just
10 points -- matching their season low set earlier this week at
Indiana.

Shaquille O'Neal missed 11 of 13 foul shots in the first half,
finishing 3-for-15 from the line with 17 points.

"We just had dead legs tonight. It was just obvious we didn't
have any zip out there at all," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said.
"This is not a low point. They're not depressed about it. They
just had a bad game. Shaq couldn't make any free throws, they lose
Gary ...

"We're not going into the woods to fight a bear with a switch.
That wasn't going to happen out there tonight."

The Lakers were supposed to be joined by Kobe Bryant, who is on
the injured list with a lacerated finger. But Bryant defied coach
Jackson and did not show up, leaving the team wondering about his
whereabouts until shortly before gametime.

Bryant's agent told the Lakers that Bryant would join them in
Orlando on the fifth stop of their seven-game road trip.

Glenn Robinson added 26 points for the 76ers, who were ripped by
Iverson two nights ago following a loss to Toronto -- their ninth in
11 games.

"We don't play with no heart, we don't take a challenge,"
Iverson said during a 10-minute rant. "Guys don't take pride and
compete."

After shooting off his mouth, it became clear early that Iverson
might be capable of shooting the Sixers out of their slump.

He scored six points over the final 1:05 of the first quarter to
help Philadelphia to a 25-10 lead.

"I hope it didn't take that," Iverson said of his public
outburst. "If it did, I'm happy that it worked. Guys came out and
played hard.

"I haven't seen that energetic flavor from us in a while."

The opening 12 minutes featured the quick ejection of Payton by
referee Joey Crawford for arguing while Iverson shot free throws.

Payton did not comment after the game, nor did O'Neal.

"I'm not going to talk about it. It's too irritating to talk
about it," Jackson said of Payton's ejection.

The Sixers led 44-29 at halftime behind 20 points from Iverson,
and he reached 30 points with 3:35 left in the third quarter by
losing Fisher with a crossover dribble and hitting a 21-footer.
Samuel Dalembert followed with a dunk off a pass from Robinson to
give Philadelphia a 71-44 lead.

Iverson sat down for good with 4:02 remaining and the 76ers
ahead 89-66.

David Lee played with a heavy heart. He was still right there when the New York Knicks needed him at the end.


Lee scored 24 points and hit the game-winning layup with 13.3 seconds remaining, one day after the death of his grandfather, and the New York Knicks salvaged the finale of a three-game trip with a 93-92 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Wednesday night.

Lee started for New York despite the death of his grandfather, E. Desmond Lee, who was 92 when he passed away on Tuesday night. Lee considered skipping this game but changed his mind.

"I made the decision to stay here rather than going to St. Louis because I wanted to fill that role as team captain and leader of this team," said Lee, who added nine rebounds. "It was a quality win for us. I didn't have the best energy, but it was enough."

Wilson Chandler added 18 points, Al Harrington scored 17, Jared Jeffries had 15 and Danilo Gallinari 12 for the Knicks (16-22), who snapped a two-game losing streak. The Knicks also ended a nine-game skid in Philadelphia, dating to Dec. 17, 2004.

"We finally got one here," Jeffries said. "We made some big plays when we needed them down the stretch."

Allen Iverson scored 16 points, Rodney Carney added 13 and Samuel Dalembert had 12 and a season-high 21 rebounds for the Sixers (12-26), who had won two straight and their previous six meetings with New York.

Dalembert played with an even heavier heart in the aftermath of Tuesday's earthquake which devastated his home country of Haiti and left thousands dead. Dalembert, who was born in Port-au-Prince in 1980 and lived there until he was 14 before moving to Montreal, was still trying to gather information on family members still living in Haiti before Wednesday's game.

While his father and one sister had contacted him, a number of other relatives and friends were still unaccounted for as he prepared to play.

"It was a relief and I can say that," Dalembert said. "When the game started, I was able to keep my mind on the game. It kind of helped me out for two hours."

Before Fridays game against Sacramento, Dalembert will continue to monitor the situation and assist in fundraising efforts.

"We should be announcing something in the next couple of days," Dalembert said.

Thaddeus Young also chipped in with 11 points for the Sixers, and Marreese Speights had 10 in the final 8:40, his only playing time all night.

A driving layup by Speights gave the Sixers a 90-86 lead with 1:30 remaining. But Chandler responded with a three-point play, and Lee hit a baseline jumper from 12 feet to push the Knicks ahead 91-90 with 43.4 seconds left.

After Speights knocked in a difficult layup off the glass, Lee provided the game-winner with a layup on an assist from Chris Duhon.

"We got a really shot on that possession," said Duhon, who had seven assists. "It was a great road win for us. We had lost a couple in a row and it feels really good to get this one, especially the way we got it."

Carney missed a 3-pointer as time expired.

"He got a good look," Sixers coach Eddie Jordan said of the last shot.

The Knicks hit nine of their first 10 shots but eventually cooled off, trailing 48-47 at halftime.

Dalembert had 10 points and 11 rebounds in the first half alone for the 76ers.

Game notes
The Sixers held a moment of silence before the game out of respect for Dalembert. ... The Knicks committed only three turnovers in the first half. ... The Sixers outrebounded New York 54-37.

Over the past five seasons, the Detroit Pistons have been one of the NBA's toughest teams to beat -- except for the Utah Jazz.


Deron Williams scored 29 points and Utah won its seventh straight over the Pistons, who extended the Jazz to double overtime before falling 120-114 Friday night.
"It's special, because that's a tough team and this is a tough place to play," Williams said. "Our styles are similar, so it is always a physical, defensive battle."

Mehmet Okur, who finished with 26 points and 12 rebounds, is 8-1 against them since leaving Detroit after winning the 2004 NBA title.

"We just play good against them," he said. "I don't know, but I like it."

Paul Millsap added 24 points and 12 rebounds as Utah took advantage of a starting lineup that averaged 30 pounds heavier than Detroit's new small-ball group.

Detroit coach Michael Curry, though, felt that sticking with three guards -- Rodney Stuckey, Allen Iverson and Richard Hamilton -- was worth giving up size inside.

"I thought we won that battle," he said. "Yes, they posted us up a few times, but we were able to get Allen and Rip free. AI had 38 and Rip scored 30, and I'll take that."

Allen Iverson led the Pistons with 38 points, and Richard Hamilton added 30.

Rasheed Wallace's 3-pointer pulled Detroit within 96-94 with 1:20 to play, and Rodney Stuckey picked off the inbounds pass and laid it in to tie the game moments later.

Okur and Wallace both missed, giving the Jazz a chance at what they thought would be the final shot of regulation. Williams drove on Stuckey, then stopped and pivoted to hit a short jumper with 2.2 seconds left. Hamilton, though, took the ensuing inbounds pass and hit a baseline jumper to send the game to overtime.

The game was tied at 104 when Tayshaun Prince's running hook beat the shot clock with 36 seconds left in the extra session. After Williams retied the game, Iverson passed up a potential winning shot in order to pass to Stuckey, who missed an open 3-pointer to send the game to a second overtime.

"I'd take that look 100 times out of 100," Iverson said. "I knew that everyone on their team knew that I was going to shoot, and that's why Rodney was so open. That shot wasn't even contested -- it just didn't go down."

Wallace had fouled out late in the first overtime, and both Hamilton and Stuckey did the same in the first 90 seconds of the second. That forced Detroit to use a makeshift lineup that included Walter Herrmann, who hadn't played in the first five periods.

"It's tough when you lose that many guys, especially when they don't have anyone foul out," Iverson said.

The Pistons still were within 113-112 with a minute to play when Kyle Korver hit a 3-pointer to make it a four-point game. Iverson answered with a layup, but Andrei Kirilenko hit two free throws and Herrmann's 3-pointer rimmed out.

That was good news for Williams, who played a career-high 46 minutes on a sore ankle.

"I was ecstatic when Kyle hit that three, because I didn't know if I had another overtime left," he said.

Iverson wound up playing 54 minutes, tying LaMarcus Aldridge for the most in an NBA game this season.

Detroit led 80-73 early in the fourth quarter, but Utah got back into the game with a 15-2 run that included eight points from Okur.

"We just need to keep playing," Utah coach Jerry Sloan said. "We continue to come out a little sluggish, but I was very happy with our second half, especially the two young guys."

Game notes
Late in the second overtime, McDyess became the fourth Pistons player to foul out. Utah did not have a single player with more than four fouls. ... Wallace also picked up his 10th technical foul for arguing a call in the fourth quarter. ... Four Jazz players -- Williams, Millsap, Korver and Okur -- played the most minutes of their careers. ... Detroit hadn't had two 30-point scorers in the same game since Hamilton and Chauncey Billups did it against Golden State on March 1, 2003.